Zeitgeist - Movie Sources and Credits
Peter Joseph (creator of Zeitgeist) believes that I'm mentally ill because I
disagree with him. You can read all about it on his forums (linked from
this forum post), with a blog-based rebuttal
here. You better not disagree with him, or you'll be labeled
insane next. Perhaps I'm crazy for pointing out his forum post?
While attempting to research the movie's sources myself, I ran into several
interesting findings. On this page I will discuss each source and my conclusions
on them. These are the sources listed on the page as of January 26, 2008 -- I
date this because I imagine the author's of the page will change it as more is
- A deep thanks goes to the inspirational work of Jordan Maxwell, whose journey in the pursuit of truth is honorary -
I decided first I would look into Jordan Maxwell and what he was all about.
At first glance his web site was like many others out there, claiming to have
secret knowledge about what is really going on in the world. There is a massive
list of claims about what is hidden in the world, and he even claims with some
that other conspiracy theorists are wrong, and he is the one who is right. It
would take a whole web site to debunk all of the claims made, but I assume
people going there will use common sense.
Part I - The Greatest Story Ever Told
* Special thanks to Acharya S for her consultation for this section *
This author is referenced many times throughout the sources, and I will
discuss her in length throughout this section. I should also note that I sorted
this section by author, it doesn't seem to have been in any order before. The
reason for this is so that it is easier to compare and contrast all of the
claims made by an author and their works. Perhaps it was split up so it did not
look like so much came from a single author.
Acharya S - Suns of God, Adventures Unlimited Press
Acharya S - The Christ Conspiracy, Adventures Unlimited Press
Who is Acharya S? That is what I wanted to know when I stumbled upon her
official web site. On her "Who
is Acharya S?" and "Credentials"
pages she goes in length talking about herself and her credentials. Immediately
I had to call many of these into question, and I will discuss them here. In
short she is a mystic and conspiracy theorist with no professional training what
so ever. She goes on and on about how she traveled in Europe and has read works
of various philosophers such as Cicero and Chaucer, and she actually claims that
she has "sat down with the Bible - in English, as well as in the original
Hebrew and Greek - long enough to understand it more than most clergy." She
claims to also be a "member" of the American
School of Classical Studies at Athens. A thorough staff and directory search
turned up nothing. I emailed various people on the web site, and yet nobody has
ever heard of her.
It really strikes me, someone who considers herself to be more knowledgeable
about Christianity than any other person, is never quoted by anyone other than
herself or Zeitgeist, the movie. Not only that but in her various works, even
video, she repeatedly claims or illudes to "Sun" and
"Son" being the same word and thus of the same origin, while this is
only true in English not in any other language (I discussed this in Part
I). I would think that someone who is well versed in many languages,
especially Hebrew and Greek, would realize that you cannot make connections this
The Christ Conspiracy
This book is the primary source for Part I of the movie, if not the only
original source, and it seems that the film-maker just used other sources to
further validate the claims. The book doesn't start off well, however, and to
further clarify what I mean, the first paragraph is full of several
inaccuracies. It claims that all religions have a good, gods, or goddesses;
nothing is more divisive than religion, and that in every religion there is an
enemy (like Satan). The first religion that comes to mind is Buddhism, as there
are no gods in Buddhism, communism and fascism always have been viewed more
divisive than religion, and beyond religion in their own right. In Buddhism
there is no enemy, except potentially yourself, but short of declaring everyone
Satan, the concept does not exist. Acharya
really doesn't know that much about religion, sociology, or much of anything at
all from as far as I can tell.
In her book, she states:
To deflect the horrible guilt off the shoulders of their own faith, religionists have pointed to supposedly secular ideologies such as Communism and Nazism as oppressors and murderers of the people. However, few realize or acknowledge that the originators of Communism were Jewish (Marx, Lenin, Hess, Trotsky) and that the most overtly violent leaders of both bloody movements were Roman Catholic (Hitler, Mussolini, Franco) or Eastern Orthodox Catholic (Stalin), despotic and intolerant ideologies that breed fascistic dictators. In other words, these movements were not
'atheistic,' as religionists maintain.
It is known that Marx,
were of Jewish ancestry, and Stalin of a Eastern Orthodox
past. They, however, were all vocal atheists throughout their lives and until
death. I hardly think it is accurate to make a claim that because someone was
born of a religion, they are that religion forever. For example, if I am born
into a Buddhist family, therefore I am a Buddhist forever -- I hardly doubt
anyone would agree with that claim. I wonder what
religion Acharya was born into. As for Hitler, Mussolini, and Franco -- while
they were indeed born into Catholic families, but there isn't much historical
evidence that they felt guilty about their religions or just used their politics
as a way to commit crimes for their religions. In fact, Hitler at least had no
real attachment to his religion, instead it seemed more like he was afraid of
his potential paternal history, rather than his childhood religion.
Her web site is geared more towards selling books that question religions
ideologies, rather than actually investigating them. You can take a look and
find her making various claims about Islam (same kind she did about Christianity
and others). It even brings up how "Allah" is actually the moon
goddess. I'll save refuting this some other time, because it requires some in-depth
explanation of history and language. Her web site also goes on
about how Junk food (such as candy bars and hamburgers) are essentially drugs
and there are roaming gangs involved in "bloody orgies of criminality and
She now even has an e-book you can download for a small donation that goes
along with Zeitgeist, the movie. Good to see she cares so much about spreading
the truth. Maybe it is also worth mentioning that she could not get her books
published anywhere except Stellar House Publishing, a company which she runs.
- Maxwell, Jordan: The Light of World (Film Series) IRES
- I could not find this source, you know where I can get it, please contact
- Allegro, John - The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Christian Myth, Prometheus Books
- I have to call this source into question, aside from being about 30 years
old, and way behind the times as far as research into the history of Christianity
goes, it bases itself on several assumptions, such as that Jesus was not
talked about around his life, which is something I debated in my debunking
of Part I. As usual, it seems to come from a point of view, of just wanting
to discredit Christianity, rather than study it.
- Berry, Gerald: Religions Of The World, Barnes & Noble Pub., 1965
- I could not get a hold of this one.
- Campbell, Joseph - Creative Mythology: The Masks of God, Penguin
- Essentially this is an over-zealous Atheist's view of Christianity. It
really is, to me, what sounds like a sarcastic commentary on the history of
beliefs that encompass Abrahamic religions, such as the belief in the Garden
of Eden. The book is pretty self-serving.
- Carpenter, Edward: Pagan and Christian Creeds: Their Origin and Meaning Book Tree, 1998
- Another book, originally published in 1920, which compares Paganism and
Christianity. It was written before we had the in-depth scholarly of Christianity
that we have now, so I do not think it is a reputable source. I also
question it because it claims that Christianity is based on Astrology,
something I debunked in Part I of my article about the movie.
- Churchward, Albert -The Origin and Evolution of Religion, The Book Tree
- About as factual as Acharya S's work, and interestingly about 80 years
older. Perhaps she copied some of her work from this guy?
- Cumont, Franz: Astrology and Religion Among the Greeks and Romans Cosimo Classics 1912
- Another century old book. It seems as though the film maker likes referring
things that were created before modern research was introduced -- a time
when people pretty much lied or guessed and it was perceived as factual.
More or less on the same lines as the Acharya S books.
- Doane, T.W. - Bible Myths and Their Parallels in Other Religions, Health Research
- This book is about 125 years old, and still along the lines of the works
of Acharya S, ridiculous research that no scholar in their right mind would
- Doherty, Earl - The Jesus Puzzle: Did Christianity Begin with a Mythical Christ?, Age of Reason Pub.
- This book is full of loose ends and strange connections that the author
attempts to make in order to prove Jesus never existed, even among the
- Fideler, David: Jesus Christ, Sun of God Quest Books, 1993
- Connections are attempted between the Christian God and the Sun, same
stuff we debunked in Part I.
- Frazer, Sir James: The Golden Bough, Touchstone Pub., 1890
- What's with all the old books? All I have to say is this work was the
basis for several other books on this list that I call into question for
gross misrepresentation of facts and research.
- Irvin, Jan & Rutajit, Andrew - Astrotheology and Shamanism, The Book Tree
- This book is hilariously full of typos, cusswords, and misrepresentation
of pretty much everything. It reminds me of the blog rantings of a 14 year
old who listens to too much death metal.
- Jackson, John G. : Christianity Before Christ, American Atheist Press, 1985
- Same story, different book, misrepresentations of facts, inaccurately
comparing figures from different religions. He even misquotes people on
purpose to prove himself correct.
- King James Version, The Holy Bible, Holman
- I have read this specific version, a few times. It's full of
mistranslations, and lacks information that is represented in Christianity. Definitely
not something to use as a source if you are attempting to do research.
- Leedom, Tim C - The Book Your Church Doesn't Want You To Read, TS Books
- Same story, yet again, attempts to make connections between Sun worship,
Christianity, Astrology, and all that.
- Massey, Gerald - Ancient Egypt: Light of the World, Kessinger Publishing
- Attempts to draw many lines between Christianity and Egyptian Mythology,
concepts I debunked in Part I, and concepts which are just completely
untrue, unfounded, and unsourced.
- Massey, Gerald - Egyptian Book of the Dead and the Mysteries of Amenta, Kessinger Publishing
- A lot of the information seems inaccurate, but if I give the author the
benefit of the doubt, I would say it's just out of date. Most of the
information contained therein contradicts pretty much everything, both
previous findings, and new ones.
- Massey, Gerald - The Historic Jesus and the Mythical Christ, The Book Tree
- I couldn't find this book. I do know that this author did believe that you
could trace all religions back to a small number of linked cults.
- Maxwell, Tice, Snow - That Old Time Religion, The Book Tree
- This is essentially based on the works of Gerald Massey, which, I
previously mentioned, is kind of a fringe set of beliefs and theories.
- Murdock, D.M. - Who was Jesus?, Steller House Publishing
- This is another book by Acharya S, but is published under a different
alias. It's the same as her other stuff.
- Remsburg, John E. - The Christ: A Critical Review and Analysis of the Evidence of His Existence, Prometheus Books
- Another 100 year old book that references secondary sources that are even
older. It is along the same lines as the other books listed here.
- Rolleston, Frances: Mazzaroth, Rivingtons, Waterloo Place, 1862
- Couldn't find it, but I imagine it is probably even more inaccurate than
the other sources here.
- Singh, Madanjeet: The Sun- Symbol of Power and Life, UNESCO, 1993
- I wasn't able to get a hold of it, so I'm not sure.
- The Naked Truth (Film) IRES
- A conspiracy movie that sources another conspiracy movie?
- Wheless, Joseph: Forgery in Christianity: A Documented Record of the Foundations of the Christian Religion 1930
- This guy is not a scholar, but a lawyer, and essentially gives
Christianity a mock show trial where he proves that the fathers of
Christianity were liars. His references are either impossible to find,
incorrect, or misrepresent what is in them.
Part II - All The World's a Stage
*A special thanks to 9/11 Truth Movement Film Makers, without which this compilation based section would not exist *
Yes, thank you, if not for you I wouldn't have a web site. ;-)
- Ruppert, Michael - Crossing the Rubicon, New Society Publishers
- Griffin, David Ray - The New Pearl Harbor, Interlink
Griffin, David Ray - Debunking 9/11 Debunking, Olive Branch Press
- Tarpley, Webster - 9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA, Progressive Press
Griffin, David Ray -The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions And Distortions, Olive Branch Press
- Marrs, Jim - The Terror Conspiracy: Deception, 9/11 and the Loss of Liberty, Disinformation Company
I pretty much debunked all of this in my September
11th set of articles, especially claims made by David Ray Griffin.
Part III - Don't Mind The Men Behind The Curtain
It is endlessly funny to me when conspiracy theorists source conspiracy
theorists. I do not think there is a single reference here that is not a
conspiracy book or film that cites no sources or sources that have been proven
false. You can read my Part III for the movie to see me debunk most of this
- Perloff, James - The Shadows of Power, Western Islands
- Marrs, Jim - Rule by Secrecy, Harper Paperbacks
Dye, Thomas R. - The Irony of Democracy, Wadsworth Publishing
- Greider, William - Secrets of the Temple: How the Federal Reserve Runs the Country, Simon & Schuster
- F.D.R.: His Personal Letters, Duell/Sloan/Pearce
- Allen, Frederick Lewis - "Morgan The Great"/ Life Magazine - 4/25/1949
- Simpson, Colin - The Lusitania, Little Brown
- Pool, James - Who Financed Hitler: the Secret Funding... ,Pocket Books
- Epperson, Ralph A. -The Unseen Hand
- Sutton, Anthony C. - Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler, G S G & Associates Pub
- Sutton, Anthony C. - The Federal Reserve Conspiracy, G S G & Associates Pub
- Allen, Gary - The Rockefeller File, 76 Pr
- Lundberg, Ferdinand - America's Sixty Families, Citidell Press
- Mcfadden, Louis - On the Federal Reserve, Congressional Record 1934
- Allen, Gary - The Bankers , Conspiratorial Origins of the Federal Reserve, American Opinion
- Larson, Martin - The Federal Reserve
- House, Edward Mandell -The Intimate Papers Of Colonel House, Kessinger Publishing
- Sutton, Anthony C. - Wall Street and FDR, Arlington House
- Wilson, Woodrow - The New Freedom
- Russo, Aaron - America: Freedom To Fascism (film)
- Iserbyt, Charlotte Thompson - The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America, 3d Research Co
- Stinnett, Robert - Day Of Deceit, Free Press
- Security and Prosperity Partnership Of North America, spp.gov
- Jaikaran, Jacques S. - Debt Virus, Glenbridge Publishing
- Benson, Bill -The Law That Never Was
- Griffin, G. Edward, The Creature from Jekyll Island, American Media
- Jones, Alex - 9/11 Road to Tyranny
- Grace Commision Report - 1984 - Reagan Admin