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Debunking Alex Jones' newest video, "What The NWO doesn't want you to know"
Author: Clock
Date: Mar 09, 2013 at 14:44
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qJE5da1r1Cw
It's debunking time once again.
In the beginning of this video, Alex says some very true things, about the the earth and the universe, and how much humanity is capable of creating and doing things. It is actually very made, good job on Alex and his editing team. It all goes well until the 4:00 minute mark in the video above, when he mentions "The Globalists".
As I often say, before you start talking about the NWO or Globalists theory, you need to prove a correlation between the Governments, the industries and the media. If you cannot, then that automatically debunks the whole NWO thing. A good article (http://thrivedebunked.wordpress.com/...enda-debunked/) discusses this here. It is well worth a read, and lays the smack down on the theory.
Alex Jones: The entire development of these systems [technology] are in the hands of The Globalists, super predators, who have a lustful disdain, and hate for humanity.
Why do they have a hate for humanity? They are humans themselves, and if they want to kill off to kill off half of humanity (or all of it, while you're at it), what's the point? Then, there will be nothing to run and nothing to do. This line is also very silly, it sounds like they are talking about the evil empire in the Star Wars movies.
Alex Jones: Globalists and social engineers talk about the total population like we are animals, and our main use is to be manipulated
-Nothing to say here. This is Alex's typical line of paranoia and opinion
Alex Jones: ...to be controlled, to be tested upon,
If they did not give a damn about us why would they bother testing us? Besides, most scientists test their experiments with rats or mice. If you see in this link, (http://www.scripps.edu/news/press/20...1101taffe.html) the journalists write that the first tests on the rats were successful. They would not test on humans. In an article by the Telegraph, (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/3353960/Should-we-experiment-on-animals-Yes.html) they state that testing on lab rats is still the best way to determine to cure or the cause of a disease. Not only that but they are reliable and cheap. Plus, since they have similar genetics as us, humans.
Alex Jones: Foster children have been used to be tested upon by the US Military for the past 60 years
-The only case of humans being tested upon was during the cold war, in St. Louis/ Texas. However, this has been debunked here: http://metabunk.org/threads/888-Army...s-and-St-Louis
The whole "for more than 60 years" line lacks evidence and is false. He does not even bother to give us examples of children used for testing.
Alex Jones: I'm asking humanity to realize that a very small group, of inbred, unhappy, twisted and wicked people, have seized control of human development, and are attempting to establish a total control system of technocratic surveillance systems and de-humanization. It is now that we must begin to struggle against their bureaucracy. Fighting their 1984 system, with liberty and enlightenment and truth, until the levers of technological development, are leveraged from the hands of the globalists. Humanity has a very dark future.
-Technically we all have control of human development. If you look up human development on google, you get this wikipedia page: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_d..._%28biology%29) Sex is human development, it is not only something the "ultra mean globalists" have. And if he is talking about alternating a human gene and cloning it, well think again. Many countries are banning genetic human testing and cloning,(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_cloning#Current_law) so this entire statement is false and plain feermongering.
Alex Jones: The real threats facing humanity are not the fake environmental threats that Al Gore and the UN talk about.
-Extremely debatable
Alex Jones: There are unchecked, cross-species genetic engineering. Tens of thousands of biotech companies, universities and governments, randomly splicing viruses, bacteria from plants and animals and then injecting them into other animals, which is already giving a rise to mutated viruses and bacteria and irrevocable vandalization of the genetic code of the planet.
-Although he is right here, it is taken entirely out of context. Mutated virus are created by mistake, in which there is not enough protein in the gene of the substance. If there is a mistake in the mutation, it cannot give any offspring, and if a DNA system is broken, it can be fixed using the DNA Repair system in order to prevent mutation. Although mutations can be problematic, they have lots of benifits as well: for ecample a cell named CCR5 can help delay the AIDS disease from having an effect your body, and people who naturally have mutations in their body can help fight very harmful diseases, such as the mutation CCR5-Δ32 help the human body to be immune from the Bubonic Plague. "...Mutation may enable the mutant organism to withstand particular environmental stresses better than wild-type organisms, or reproduce more quickly. In these cases a mutation will tend to become more common in a population through natural selection."-wkipedia Also, Mutations are not unchecked, I am not sure where Alex got that from. They are obviously checked if they know it can cause cancer, as seen in the wikipedia article below.
sources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutation
Alex Jones: High tech chemical and most importantly biological weapons development, unchecked nanotech,
-Unchecked Nanotech is pure fiction. This technology is always checked, and some of the problems that conspiracy theorists say about it (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Nanotechnology#In_fiction) are just plain false.
Alex Jones: the artificial creation of black holes,
-Alex pulled that out of his @ss. This is what a physicist has to say about it:
"Not with any current, or remotely feasible technology. The method in use by the universe today; get several Suns worth of mass into a big pile and wait, is a pretty effective way to create black holes.
In theory, all you need to do to create an artificial black hole (a "black faux"?) is to get a large amount of energy and matter into a very small volume. The easiest method would probably be to use some kind of massive, super-duper-accelerators. The problem is that black holes are dense, and the smaller and less massive they are the denser they need to be."
http://www.askamathematician.com/2012/07/q-is-it-possible-for-an-artificial-black-hole-to-be-created-or-something-that-has-the-same-effects-if-so-how-small-could-it-be-made/
Although I see where Alex saw his info about the 2 phycists in china creating a black hole, this is actually what their experiment was about:
"after a related paper was published by researchers at Purdue University, Indiana. The paper proposed a device that could mimic the properties of a black hole in space, causing space-time in the surrounding area to bend and warp and spiral inwards toward the center of the black hole. But unlike a cosmic black hole, this one (hopefully) won't rip us apart."
It mimics the properties of a black hole, the machine does not create a cosmetic black hole.
http://gajitz.com/suck-it-up-first-artificial-black-hole-built-we-survived/
Alex Jones: any matter weapons of the air force, who admits they developed a new viral vaccine that re-engineers the brain by attacking certain gangly i systems in which you could no longer feel emotions.
This is false, a pure fabrication. It you can't find it on google, where can you?
Alex Jones: ...and in the incoming years they are going to override every major life form on this planet without asking you.
Once again this is false, there are many groups that are against human cloning, again, look at the list of countries who refuse human testing.
Alex Jones: That's a trillion times what Monsanto does planting your crops next to yours, and they come and charge in on your property and charge copyright infringement when they polluted your property.
Gmos debunked here: http://metabunk.org/threads/177-GMO-conspiracy-theories
And then... Alex goes on another well spoken about how unethical it is to do all of these transformations. He still says his typical BS of "NWO are trying to distract you" but Alex is actually being a well spoken person in this, and I must say that he is doing a good job. It's really a shame that Alex Jones is a Conspiracy Theorist, as he is pretty well spoken when he is not yelling and screaming like an ape. But then, he goes back to the whole wake up message, which is dumb.
At one point he talks about those times when scientists say the planet would be better off without us. Alex says that is a plan by the NWO to make humanity seem as a disease. And honestly? The Scientists who say so are right in a sense. Michael Crichton once wrote in The Lost World that humans are so destructive, that is so easy for us to manipulate things that we are somewhat like a disease on the earth, and we abuse its resources to hell. And to be fair? we sort of do. Would Climate Change be an issue if we were not extracting oils from tar pits or decomposed fossils? Would have less floods and landslides if we did not cut as many forests down? Alex takes these quotes by scientists way out of context. However, these claims by both Alex and the Scientists should not be taken seriously. They are merely statements and observations of how the human being acts. Nothing more, nothing less.
He says that they are openly planning to release biological weapons in order to kill us all, which is false as the US, UK and Russia banned the developement of stockipiling bio weapons, and they is also a lack of proof that the other countries will launch all of them on us to kill us all.
More rambling on trying to dumb us down. Yawn.
And.. he talks about that for the rest of the vid. I hope you enjoyed this debunking. And now, I will take a nice shower, this guy is giving me a headache!
It's debunking time once again.
In the beginning of this video, Alex says some very true things, about the the earth and the universe, and how much humanity is capable of creating and doing things. It is actually very made, good job on Alex and his editing team. It all goes well until the 4:00 minute mark in the video above, when he mentions "The Globalists".
As I often say, before you start talking about the NWO or Globalists theory, you need to prove a correlation between the Governments, the industries and the media. If you cannot, then that automatically debunks the whole NWO thing. A good article (http://thrivedebunked.wordpress.com/...enda-debunked/) discusses this here. It is well worth a read, and lays the smack down on the theory.
Alex Jones: The entire development of these systems [technology] are in the hands of The Globalists, super predators, who have a lustful disdain, and hate for humanity.
Why do they have a hate for humanity? They are humans themselves, and if they want to kill off to kill off half of humanity (or all of it, while you're at it), what's the point? Then, there will be nothing to run and nothing to do. This line is also very silly, it sounds like they are talking about the evil empire in the Star Wars movies.
Alex Jones: Globalists and social engineers talk about the total population like we are animals, and our main use is to be manipulated
-Nothing to say here. This is Alex's typical line of paranoia and opinion
Alex Jones: ...to be controlled, to be tested upon,
If they did not give a damn about us why would they bother testing us? Besides, most scientists test their experiments with rats or mice. If you see in this link, (http://www.scripps.edu/news/press/20...1101taffe.html) the journalists write that the first tests on the rats were successful. They would not test on humans. In an article by the Telegraph, (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/3353960/Should-we-experiment-on-animals-Yes.html) they state that testing on lab rats is still the best way to determine to cure or the cause of a disease. Not only that but they are reliable and cheap. Plus, since they have similar genetics as us, humans.
Alex Jones: Foster children have been used to be tested upon by the US Military for the past 60 years
-The only case of humans being tested upon was during the cold war, in St. Louis/ Texas. However, this has been debunked here: http://metabunk.org/threads/888-Army...s-and-St-Louis
The whole "for more than 60 years" line lacks evidence and is false. He does not even bother to give us examples of children used for testing.
Alex Jones: I'm asking humanity to realize that a very small group, of inbred, unhappy, twisted and wicked people, have seized control of human development, and are attempting to establish a total control system of technocratic surveillance systems and de-humanization. It is now that we must begin to struggle against their bureaucracy. Fighting their 1984 system, with liberty and enlightenment and truth, until the levers of technological development, are leveraged from the hands of the globalists. Humanity has a very dark future.
-Technically we all have control of human development. If you look up human development on google, you get this wikipedia page: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_d..._%28biology%29) Sex is human development, it is not only something the "ultra mean globalists" have. And if he is talking about alternating a human gene and cloning it, well think again. Many countries are banning genetic human testing and cloning,(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_cloning#Current_law) so this entire statement is false and plain feermongering.
Alex Jones: The real threats facing humanity are not the fake environmental threats that Al Gore and the UN talk about.
-Extremely debatable
Alex Jones: There are unchecked, cross-species genetic engineering. Tens of thousands of biotech companies, universities and governments, randomly splicing viruses, bacteria from plants and animals and then injecting them into other animals, which is already giving a rise to mutated viruses and bacteria and irrevocable vandalization of the genetic code of the planet.
-Although he is right here, it is taken entirely out of context. Mutated virus are created by mistake, in which there is not enough protein in the gene of the substance. If there is a mistake in the mutation, it cannot give any offspring, and if a DNA system is broken, it can be fixed using the DNA Repair system in order to prevent mutation. Although mutations can be problematic, they have lots of benifits as well: for ecample a cell named CCR5 can help delay the AIDS disease from having an effect your body, and people who naturally have mutations in their body can help fight very harmful diseases, such as the mutation CCR5-Δ32 help the human body to be immune from the Bubonic Plague. "...Mutation may enable the mutant organism to withstand particular environmental stresses better than wild-type organisms, or reproduce more quickly. In these cases a mutation will tend to become more common in a population through natural selection."-wkipedia Also, Mutations are not unchecked, I am not sure where Alex got that from. They are obviously checked if they know it can cause cancer, as seen in the wikipedia article below.
sources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutation
Alex Jones: High tech chemical and most importantly biological weapons development, unchecked nanotech,
-Unchecked Nanotech is pure fiction. This technology is always checked, and some of the problems that conspiracy theorists say about it (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Nanotechnology#In_fiction) are just plain false.
Alex Jones: the artificial creation of black holes,
-Alex pulled that out of his @ss. This is what a physicist has to say about it:
"Not with any current, or remotely feasible technology. The method in use by the universe today; get several Suns worth of mass into a big pile and wait, is a pretty effective way to create black holes.
In theory, all you need to do to create an artificial black hole (a "black faux"?) is to get a large amount of energy and matter into a very small volume. The easiest method would probably be to use some kind of massive, super-duper-accelerators. The problem is that black holes are dense, and the smaller and less massive they are the denser they need to be."
http://www.askamathematician.com/2012/07/q-is-it-possible-for-an-artificial-black-hole-to-be-created-or-something-that-has-the-same-effects-if-so-how-small-could-it-be-made/
Although I see where Alex saw his info about the 2 phycists in china creating a black hole, this is actually what their experiment was about:
"after a related paper was published by researchers at Purdue University, Indiana. The paper proposed a device that could mimic the properties of a black hole in space, causing space-time in the surrounding area to bend and warp and spiral inwards toward the center of the black hole. But unlike a cosmic black hole, this one (hopefully) won't rip us apart."
It mimics the properties of a black hole, the machine does not create a cosmetic black hole.
http://gajitz.com/suck-it-up-first-artificial-black-hole-built-we-survived/
Alex Jones: any matter weapons of the air force, who admits they developed a new viral vaccine that re-engineers the brain by attacking certain gangly i systems in which you could no longer feel emotions.
This is false, a pure fabrication. It you can't find it on google, where can you?
Alex Jones: ...and in the incoming years they are going to override every major life form on this planet without asking you.
Once again this is false, there are many groups that are against human cloning, again, look at the list of countries who refuse human testing.
Alex Jones: That's a trillion times what Monsanto does planting your crops next to yours, and they come and charge in on your property and charge copyright infringement when they polluted your property.
Gmos debunked here: http://metabunk.org/threads/177-GMO-conspiracy-theories
And then... Alex goes on another well spoken about how unethical it is to do all of these transformations. He still says his typical BS of "NWO are trying to distract you" but Alex is actually being a well spoken person in this, and I must say that he is doing a good job. It's really a shame that Alex Jones is a Conspiracy Theorist, as he is pretty well spoken when he is not yelling and screaming like an ape. But then, he goes back to the whole wake up message, which is dumb.
At one point he talks about those times when scientists say the planet would be better off without us. Alex says that is a plan by the NWO to make humanity seem as a disease. And honestly? The Scientists who say so are right in a sense. Michael Crichton once wrote in The Lost World that humans are so destructive, that is so easy for us to manipulate things that we are somewhat like a disease on the earth, and we abuse its resources to hell. And to be fair? we sort of do. Would Climate Change be an issue if we were not extracting oils from tar pits or decomposed fossils? Would have less floods and landslides if we did not cut as many forests down? Alex takes these quotes by scientists way out of context. However, these claims by both Alex and the Scientists should not be taken seriously. They are merely statements and observations of how the human being acts. Nothing more, nothing less.
He says that they are openly planning to release biological weapons in order to kill us all, which is false as the US, UK and Russia banned the developement of stockipiling bio weapons, and they is also a lack of proof that the other countries will launch all of them on us to kill us all.
More rambling on trying to dumb us down. Yawn.
And.. he talks about that for the rest of the vid. I hope you enjoyed this debunking. And now, I will take a nice shower, this guy is giving me a headache!
Debunked: Ke$ha forced to sing "we're gonna die young"" (Vigilant Citizen Debunked, Part 1)
Author: Clock
Date: Mar 09, 2013 at 14:08
Once in awhile, I admit, I go on Vigilant Citizen, to see what paranoid assumption they are talking about at the moment. And guess what? it's the music industry! The folks at VC say that having these random signs and other things prove that the NWO exist. (This whole theory has been debunked by a very good debunker, right here : http://thrivedebunked.wordpress.com/?s=Global+)
Of course, they are not sure why video editors and artists would spend so much time putting in satanic*** symbols (for not even 4 seconds a video on most cases) in music videos in order to supposedly advertise their symbols inside of popular media (as if that will accomplish anything)
***: the satanic symbols that represent symbols of god, but whatever.
This week they decide to attack Ke$ha. Lovely. I decide to dive right in, and, of course, debunk it. It seems to be about a tweet that she made on twitter. This is the article that VC wrote:
Vigilant Citizen: Ke$ha Claims She Was Forced to Sing "Die Young"
In the wake of the Sandy Hook shooting, radio stations across the country are dropping Ke$ha's single Die Young from their playlist. The song's constant repetition of the words "we're gonna die young" is now apparently deemed inappropriate for airplay. As I've stated in The Illuminati Symbolism of Ke$ha's "Die Young" and How it Ridicules the Indoctrinated Masses, the entire imagery of the video and of the live performances that accompanied the song were about glorifying death and ritual sacrifices. All of this was interlaced with Illuminati symbolism, hinting that the whole thing was yet another way of the elite to push a culture of death on the masses.
Clock: The tweet that they are talking about can be seen here: http://metabunk.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=1262&d=1356494994
Vigilant Citizen: This tweet was later deleted because it probably pissed off her bosses.
But who exactly forced her to sing those lyrics? Why was she credited as a writer of the song? As I stated in the Die Young article:
"In reality, Ke$ha didn't do anything for any LOLs. She did not direct the video. She is just performing what she is told to perform, like most pop stars. The fact of the matter is: Illuminati symbols are becoming more prevalent because that was the plan all along - to gradually make them part of popular culture. The occult elite is revealing itself and the masses are dancing to their tunes."
Pop stars have no control over their careers, they are puppets used to push Agendas. Die Young was all about celebrating the sick culture of death that is prevalent in mass media today. Ke$ha's temporary tweet gave us a small glimpse of the coercive and forceful nature of the music industry and how it imposes content on stars.
It apparently took a mass shooting to make some people realize that there is something sick and unhealthy in popular culture. I am not for censorship of any kind, but for people to wake up and reject the crap that is pushed on them. Let's hope other tragedies won't be needed to make more people see the obvious.
These guys sure are a ball of joy.
OK, first thing's first: I love the fact how Vigilant Citizen loves making assumptions, and jumping to conclusions (Everything someone rich does has to do with the Illuminati or being controlled OMG OMG) in order to fit their own view, that is the only right idea and you are considered stupid and brain-washed if you disagree.
What Ke$ha meant by this tweet:
She responded to many of the conspiracy theorists and fans about her tweet, and this is what she said on her website:
"MESSAGE FROM KE$HA
December 20, 2012
After such a tragic event I was feeling a lot of emotion and sadness when I said I was forced to sing some of the lyrics to Die Young. Forced is not the right word. I did have some concerns about the phrase "die young" in the chorus when we were writing the lyrics especially because so many of my fans are young and that's one reason why I wrote so many versions of this song. But the point of the song is the importance of living every day to the fullest and staying young at heart, and these are things I truly believe."
http://www.keshasparty.com/us/news/message-keha
Now, what she means by forced, does not mean manipulated by someone to sing the song. She was forced, to sing the lyrics as is, because let's face it, that's the song. If someone would make a song about peace and war, having it become a smash single, and then a war breaks out somewhere, well, the artist playing live is going to have to sing the song as is, because that's what people pay to see, sometimes.
Later, VC goes on this tangent about agendas and manipulations. This is entirely debatable and I'm going to prove it, using another popular artist these days, Bruno Mars. He recently released his second studio album, Unorthodox Jukebox.
"This is me going into the studio and recording and writing whatever I want. This album represents my freedom. I've had big record label presidents look me in the face and say, 'Your music sucks, you don't know who you are, your music is all over the place, and we don't know how to market this stuff. Pick a lane and come back to us.' That was disgusting to me, because I'm not trying to be a circus act. I listen to a lot of music, and I want to have the freedom and luxury to walk into a studio and say, 'Today I want to do a hip-hop, R&B, soul or rock record'"
After the success of his first album, Doo-Wops and Hooligans, the record label wanted his 2nd album to be a variation on the same theme, as it is usually the winning formula, and he instead did his own thing. The album follows a variety of styles, from Disco to an Elton John ballad, and finally to a Police-ish rock song.
Some people might say that he is forced to say this, but again, is there any proof of him being manipulated by the "evil" record companies? You probably can't.
There are tons of of artists I could think of that were like this, but Bruno Mars is a great example because he is modern.
There are other people in bands that 'control' a band in a certain way, and these guys are called managers. These guys book, advertise and take care relations between the band and the record label, and to make sure that the artist continues to be successful and make lots of money. ( http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091018085326AAGAwlC )
Vigilant Citizen is a paranoid website that is full of fear mongering, and lack of proper research. They did not bother to prove that she was being controlled by others and that she told to sing this song, which makes no sense considering she wrote the thing.
In the next thread, I will debunk Ke$ha's video "Die Young" and artists commonly recognized for being part of the NWO. (oops! I already did this! You can find it here: http://conspiracies.skepticproject.com/forum/5490/the-illuminati-symbolism-kehas-die-young-video-debunked/ )
Until next time,
Clock
Of course, they are not sure why video editors and artists would spend so much time putting in satanic*** symbols (for not even 4 seconds a video on most cases) in music videos in order to supposedly advertise their symbols inside of popular media (as if that will accomplish anything)
***: the satanic symbols that represent symbols of god, but whatever.
This week they decide to attack Ke$ha. Lovely. I decide to dive right in, and, of course, debunk it. It seems to be about a tweet that she made on twitter. This is the article that VC wrote:
Vigilant Citizen: Ke$ha Claims She Was Forced to Sing "Die Young"
In the wake of the Sandy Hook shooting, radio stations across the country are dropping Ke$ha's single Die Young from their playlist. The song's constant repetition of the words "we're gonna die young" is now apparently deemed inappropriate for airplay. As I've stated in The Illuminati Symbolism of Ke$ha's "Die Young" and How it Ridicules the Indoctrinated Masses, the entire imagery of the video and of the live performances that accompanied the song were about glorifying death and ritual sacrifices. All of this was interlaced with Illuminati symbolism, hinting that the whole thing was yet another way of the elite to push a culture of death on the masses.
Clock: The tweet that they are talking about can be seen here: http://metabunk.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=1262&d=1356494994
Vigilant Citizen: This tweet was later deleted because it probably pissed off her bosses.
But who exactly forced her to sing those lyrics? Why was she credited as a writer of the song? As I stated in the Die Young article:
"In reality, Ke$ha didn't do anything for any LOLs. She did not direct the video. She is just performing what she is told to perform, like most pop stars. The fact of the matter is: Illuminati symbols are becoming more prevalent because that was the plan all along - to gradually make them part of popular culture. The occult elite is revealing itself and the masses are dancing to their tunes."
Pop stars have no control over their careers, they are puppets used to push Agendas. Die Young was all about celebrating the sick culture of death that is prevalent in mass media today. Ke$ha's temporary tweet gave us a small glimpse of the coercive and forceful nature of the music industry and how it imposes content on stars.
It apparently took a mass shooting to make some people realize that there is something sick and unhealthy in popular culture. I am not for censorship of any kind, but for people to wake up and reject the crap that is pushed on them. Let's hope other tragedies won't be needed to make more people see the obvious.
These guys sure are a ball of joy.
OK, first thing's first: I love the fact how Vigilant Citizen loves making assumptions, and jumping to conclusions (Everything someone rich does has to do with the Illuminati or being controlled OMG OMG) in order to fit their own view, that is the only right idea and you are considered stupid and brain-washed if you disagree.
What Ke$ha meant by this tweet:
She responded to many of the conspiracy theorists and fans about her tweet, and this is what she said on her website:
"MESSAGE FROM KE$HA
December 20, 2012
After such a tragic event I was feeling a lot of emotion and sadness when I said I was forced to sing some of the lyrics to Die Young. Forced is not the right word. I did have some concerns about the phrase "die young" in the chorus when we were writing the lyrics especially because so many of my fans are young and that's one reason why I wrote so many versions of this song. But the point of the song is the importance of living every day to the fullest and staying young at heart, and these are things I truly believe."
http://www.keshasparty.com/us/news/message-keha
Now, what she means by forced, does not mean manipulated by someone to sing the song. She was forced, to sing the lyrics as is, because let's face it, that's the song. If someone would make a song about peace and war, having it become a smash single, and then a war breaks out somewhere, well, the artist playing live is going to have to sing the song as is, because that's what people pay to see, sometimes.
Later, VC goes on this tangent about agendas and manipulations. This is entirely debatable and I'm going to prove it, using another popular artist these days, Bruno Mars. He recently released his second studio album, Unorthodox Jukebox.
"This is me going into the studio and recording and writing whatever I want. This album represents my freedom. I've had big record label presidents look me in the face and say, 'Your music sucks, you don't know who you are, your music is all over the place, and we don't know how to market this stuff. Pick a lane and come back to us.' That was disgusting to me, because I'm not trying to be a circus act. I listen to a lot of music, and I want to have the freedom and luxury to walk into a studio and say, 'Today I want to do a hip-hop, R&B, soul or rock record'"
After the success of his first album, Doo-Wops and Hooligans, the record label wanted his 2nd album to be a variation on the same theme, as it is usually the winning formula, and he instead did his own thing. The album follows a variety of styles, from Disco to an Elton John ballad, and finally to a Police-ish rock song.
Some people might say that he is forced to say this, but again, is there any proof of him being manipulated by the "evil" record companies? You probably can't.
There are tons of of artists I could think of that were like this, but Bruno Mars is a great example because he is modern.
There are other people in bands that 'control' a band in a certain way, and these guys are called managers. These guys book, advertise and take care relations between the band and the record label, and to make sure that the artist continues to be successful and make lots of money. ( http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091018085326AAGAwlC )
Vigilant Citizen is a paranoid website that is full of fear mongering, and lack of proper research. They did not bother to prove that she was being controlled by others and that she told to sing this song, which makes no sense considering she wrote the thing.
In the next thread, I will debunk Ke$ha's video "Die Young" and artists commonly recognized for being part of the NWO. (oops! I already did this! You can find it here: http://conspiracies.skepticproject.com/forum/5490/the-illuminati-symbolism-kehas-die-young-video-debunked/ )
Until next time,
Clock
The Illuminati Symbolism Ke$ha's Die Young Video (Vigilant Citizen Debunked, Part 2)
Author: Clock
Date: Mar 09, 2013 at 14:06
As I promised in a previous thread, I was going to concentrate on Ke$ha's Die Young video, which is a video Vigilant Citizen loves to death because it is full of symbolism. The amount of freemasonry symbolism here is not hard to miss, to the point where it seems to be done on purpose, but, we'll talk about that later. Let's first dive in the wonderful VC article:
Vigilant Citizen : "The Illuminati Symbolism of Ke$ha's "Die Young" and How it Ridicules the Indoctrinated Masses
Ke$ha's "Die Young" is probably one of the most blatant Illuminati videos ever released. While the symbolism is so overt that it is almost ridiculous, there's an underlying message to the video: Even if you're dumb enough to embrace all of that Illuminati brainwash, you're still not part of the elite and therefore, still subject to "Die Young"."
Clock: First off, that is not what the song is about. according to ke$ha, this is what the song is about:
"...But the point of the song is the importance of living every day to the fullest and staying young at heart, and these are things I truly believe."
http://perezhilton.com/2012-12-20-ke...n#.UNr92ndO5QU
Also, it's a shame that Vigilant Citizen never reasearched why all of the symbolism was in it, but be patient, I will cover it soon.
Vigilant Citizen:
Ke-dollarsign-ha has never been the most inspirational singer around. She started her career as an alcoholic party girl that's not too strict about personal hygiene (see the Tik Tok line "Before I leave brush ma teeth with a bottle of Jack") and, for her new album, she turned into some kind of Illuminati witch-type deal. She is far from the only pop star that has gone through this kind of metamorphosis and it was probably pre-planned by her record label. How many singers have gone from an "around-the-way" girl to an Illuminati figurehead? That's what the industry does.
Clock: There's a hole in this paragraph:
Vigilant Citizen: She is far from the only pop star that has gone through this kind of metamorphosis and it was probably pre-planned by her record label
Clock: the hypocrisy of this statement will be revealed right now:
Vigilant Citizen: How many singers have gone from an "around-the-way" girl to an Illuminati figurehead? That's what the industry does.
Clock: VC is now implying that it is something common when before they had said that it is something in common with most pop stars. Can VC actually prove the existance of this illuminati controlling pop music and imposing their "evilllll" message on kids? Fact is, they cannot. They can show you a bunch of symbols that don't mean anything though! That is their proof on the existance of this evil organization; they have lots of symbols of weird things. They cannot however show me a video of a meeting between Ke$ha and the illuminati heads planning her success on the radio nor can they show a paper of it, because quite frankly, it doesn't exist . You can show me a bunch of pictures of Rihanna and Ke$ha doing things all you want, but that's not going to pass on as proof.
Vigilant Citizen: on the untrained eye this kind of transformation is usually somewhat subtle ... Ke$ha's Die Young is anything but. In fact, it is one giant clusterfreak of Illuminati symbols. It is so obvious and in-your-face that it forced mainstream music sources such as Billboard.com to "admit" that the video was all about Illuminati symbols (see their article entitled Ke$ha Shouts-Out Illuminati in 'Die Young' Video). Interestingly enough, not too long ago, these same sites were calling sites like Vigilant Citizen "batshit crazy" for even alluding to the existence of these symbols and describing their meaning. Now these sites say "Yeah, there are Illuminati symbols" in a matter-of-fact way. What happened to the batshit crazy part? However, the mainstream sites still only refer to this concept in an extremely superficial way, not giving any insight on their true meaning and the real Agenda behind it all.
Clock: Lol, Bilboard.com is not admitting, it is stating a fact. Poor Vigilant Citizen, they do not realize that it is making fun of conspiracy theorists, who go batshit crazy when they see symbolism in Music Videos. Now, they were given an entire video full of them, and they went crazy. Also if a major music magazine is advertizing the fact that the video is full of it, it usually means it was done on purpose, and it is a clever advertizement scheme. (shock value =revenue). I am going to quote a quote I used from another thread on Metabunk:
"Ok everyone here goes. I have looked at this site repeatedly and found it to be totally ridiculous. It's very similar to the "Bible Code" hype. If you look hard enough at anything you can find something to try to justify your beliefs. This whole bit about the "Corporate Elite" hiding symbols in music and videos is completely laughable. It is now and always has been just for the shock value. You know, "doing something that your parents will hate". It has always been about having something that the "older generation" is shocked by and the kids will love it.There is no big conspiracy. It's purely for shock and advertising. Something to catch the eye and stand out above the rest. If this guy at VC really believed what he writes he wouldn't hide his true identity.
He says he has been in the music industry for years and sees all of the crap. Crap is what it is. I have been in the music industry for 45 years. It's all about advertising and publicity. Nothing more. No hidden meanings, no mind control, no Satanism. Most of the people that believe this crap are mind numb robots incapable of thinking for themselves. I'm not saying they are stupid because stupidity is something your are born with. They are although ignorant. Being ignorant is something that you do through conscious thought. Most of the people that believe what is on VC have been taught WHAT to think, not HOW to think.
It doesn't matter if the person behind the web site is Christian or not. He has an ulterior motive of some kind otherwise he wouldn't hide his identity.
One last thing I need to mention is the censorship of the site. I have used their VOTING BUTTONS only to find that if I return to the site later that my votes haven't been counted and if I write a reply to any of the postings and don't agree with what has been said by others the my replies mysteriously disappear. I guess he can't handle any opposition because he is afraid of the "Real Truth"."
If the entire thing was done on purpose, why is Vigilant Citizen bothering to cover it? I mean, that's what a shout-out usually means, it was done on purpose, and not meant to be taken seriously. If there is something the people at Vigilant Citizen lack, it's rationality and common sense. everything someone does is suspicious and they analyse the living hell out of it to come to their view (which is always right, by the way.)
Vigilant Citizen: Some might rationalize what is happening by saying: "Ke$ha did it for the LOLs and to make fun of the conspiracies". This is plausible, but this argument is now surfacing every time a video contains Illuminati symbolism. Are all videos now making fun of conspiracies? In reality, Ke$ha didn't do anything for any LOLs. She did not direct the video. She is just performing what she is told to perform, like most pop stars. The fact of the matter is: Illuminati symbols are becoming more prevalent because that was the plan all along: To gradually make them part of popular culture. The occult elite is revealing itself and the masses are dancing to their tunes.
Clock: You know what? This is not bad of an argument, good job on Vigilant Citizen. I will hand them that. However, there are mistakes in this paragraph that could not make this argument seem valid: Is there any proof that she is being controlled by anyone else? Can you show a quote, a picture, person, name or video of this going on? Also, If there is all of this craziness going on, why aren't there any whistle blowers? also, if they were so secret, why would they leave clues around? Truly, if something were secret, then they would not be leaving clues behind, and I'm pretty sure that websites like Vigilant Citizen would be taken down for "exposing".
Also, how are symbols becoming more and more prevalent? That is opinion. Usually, if you see one symbol, and you are being told to see more, your brain will likely start looking for these patterns of symbols, and you will therefore start seeing them everywhere.
If their plan was to make some of the symbols of the illuminati as part of pop culture, what in the world would they gain of that? Does that make them Illuminati worshipers? No, they are still mostly Catholic or devout to their own religion, just because the music video that teenagers are listening to contains some symbolism (if you search for them, you might just find them everywhere, and trust me, it's a really creepy experience) Does that make them Satan Worshipers? no.
They then begin to analyze some of the symbols. yaaaayy!
They use the eye of providence a lot, and this makes me very confused. If the illumnati, as VC puts it, is a group of people controlling the government and the music industry. They are said to be Satanic and evil and want to impose a eery plan of New World Order. The NWO on the Thrive Debunked website has been debunked to death already, so I will not even bother with it. Here's my question: If a group that believed in Satanic worship and are working against God and what everybody else thinks, why in the hell is their symbol (the eye of providence) representative of GOD? That makes absolutely no sense.
TO end this, I will use a little copy pasting from Rational Wiki:
"Easter eggs in the media
They also have a tendency to put hidden symbols and clues to their existence around the world, and on money, for no apparent reasons.[5]
Nearly every popular culture icon, including television shows, politicians music artists and any/every celebrity, are said to be somehow connected to the Illuminati in some way from something as normal as a triangle...
Probably the best example of this would be Tupac Shakur, whose last album was entitled "The Don Killuminati: The Seven Day Theory" lead to many theories.[6] Tupac actually chose the title to reference that the album was recorded and mixed in a relatively short period of seven days.The word killuminati (a portmanteau of the words kill and illuminati) that people ironically interpret as Pac saying that he is speaking out against them and killing illuminati. The truth being that he heard about them in prison and used the logic the majority of people lack that "If this organisation is so secret, how the fuck does everyone know about it?" Those aren't his words but it's what he meant, Tupac never believed in the Illuminati. [7] People also begin to distort the truth to form other theories. People have been saying Tupac faked his death and will be coming back since 2003. Every few years when they are obviously wrong people push back the guess a few years. This is mainly because a while before he died Tupac was planning on permanently changing his rap name to Makaveli after the 15/16th century writer Niccolò Machiavelli.
An equally good example would be rapper Jay-Z. He is supposedly very high in the Illuminati's hierarchy of celebrities. The hand gesture that he flashes has been cited as "proof" (in a very, very loose sense of the word) even though it's meant to represent the diamond of Roc-a-fella Records and is thrown up as frequently as the east or west hand signs. He is also accused of being famous for selling his soul and amongst other things. As with Tupac, theorists just turn to lies to prove their points. Quite a few people claimed that the name of his newborn daughter, Blue Ivy, backwards (Yvi Eulb) is Latin for Lucifer's daughter even though there is nothing to imply this. Jay Z has denied all these claims; his response to the conspiracy theorists can be heard in Rick Ross's song, "Free Mason."[8] I assure you when he dies no matter how simple the explanation for the death, someone somewhere will have "evidence" that the illuminati was involved.
It can be very difficult to find anyone who isn't actually connected with the Illuminati. All of the claimed affiliations involve an occult symbol in a music video or photo (usually the "all-seeing eye," the Star of David, or a Pentagram). This is most likely to get people talking and gain publicity. For example, if Rihanna has a newspaper cutout that says "Princess of the Illuminati" in a music video. Millions of people will go watch the video...
Michael Jackson is a very interesting case. One faction of the conspiracy community considers him a member of the Illuminati, employed to brainwash the public. Another faction, however, says that Michael was not a member, but actually was fighting to expose their control of the music industry and media. Michael was supposedly killed for this very reason. Either way the theorists have all the bases covered.
I hope you ennjoyed this debunking. I will next analyze the kesha tweet in which she says that she was forced to sing Die Young!
-Clock
Vigilant Citizen : "The Illuminati Symbolism of Ke$ha's "Die Young" and How it Ridicules the Indoctrinated Masses
Ke$ha's "Die Young" is probably one of the most blatant Illuminati videos ever released. While the symbolism is so overt that it is almost ridiculous, there's an underlying message to the video: Even if you're dumb enough to embrace all of that Illuminati brainwash, you're still not part of the elite and therefore, still subject to "Die Young"."
Clock: First off, that is not what the song is about. according to ke$ha, this is what the song is about:
"...But the point of the song is the importance of living every day to the fullest and staying young at heart, and these are things I truly believe."
http://perezhilton.com/2012-12-20-ke...n#.UNr92ndO5QU
Also, it's a shame that Vigilant Citizen never reasearched why all of the symbolism was in it, but be patient, I will cover it soon.
Vigilant Citizen:
Ke-dollarsign-ha has never been the most inspirational singer around. She started her career as an alcoholic party girl that's not too strict about personal hygiene (see the Tik Tok line "Before I leave brush ma teeth with a bottle of Jack") and, for her new album, she turned into some kind of Illuminati witch-type deal. She is far from the only pop star that has gone through this kind of metamorphosis and it was probably pre-planned by her record label. How many singers have gone from an "around-the-way" girl to an Illuminati figurehead? That's what the industry does.
Clock: There's a hole in this paragraph:
Vigilant Citizen: She is far from the only pop star that has gone through this kind of metamorphosis and it was probably pre-planned by her record label
Clock: the hypocrisy of this statement will be revealed right now:
Vigilant Citizen: How many singers have gone from an "around-the-way" girl to an Illuminati figurehead? That's what the industry does.
Clock: VC is now implying that it is something common when before they had said that it is something in common with most pop stars. Can VC actually prove the existance of this illuminati controlling pop music and imposing their "evilllll" message on kids? Fact is, they cannot. They can show you a bunch of symbols that don't mean anything though! That is their proof on the existance of this evil organization; they have lots of symbols of weird things. They cannot however show me a video of a meeting between Ke$ha and the illuminati heads planning her success on the radio nor can they show a paper of it, because quite frankly, it doesn't exist . You can show me a bunch of pictures of Rihanna and Ke$ha doing things all you want, but that's not going to pass on as proof.
Vigilant Citizen: on the untrained eye this kind of transformation is usually somewhat subtle ... Ke$ha's Die Young is anything but. In fact, it is one giant clusterfreak of Illuminati symbols. It is so obvious and in-your-face that it forced mainstream music sources such as Billboard.com to "admit" that the video was all about Illuminati symbols (see their article entitled Ke$ha Shouts-Out Illuminati in 'Die Young' Video). Interestingly enough, not too long ago, these same sites were calling sites like Vigilant Citizen "batshit crazy" for even alluding to the existence of these symbols and describing their meaning. Now these sites say "Yeah, there are Illuminati symbols" in a matter-of-fact way. What happened to the batshit crazy part? However, the mainstream sites still only refer to this concept in an extremely superficial way, not giving any insight on their true meaning and the real Agenda behind it all.
Clock: Lol, Bilboard.com is not admitting, it is stating a fact. Poor Vigilant Citizen, they do not realize that it is making fun of conspiracy theorists, who go batshit crazy when they see symbolism in Music Videos. Now, they were given an entire video full of them, and they went crazy. Also if a major music magazine is advertizing the fact that the video is full of it, it usually means it was done on purpose, and it is a clever advertizement scheme. (shock value =revenue). I am going to quote a quote I used from another thread on Metabunk:
"Ok everyone here goes. I have looked at this site repeatedly and found it to be totally ridiculous. It's very similar to the "Bible Code" hype. If you look hard enough at anything you can find something to try to justify your beliefs. This whole bit about the "Corporate Elite" hiding symbols in music and videos is completely laughable. It is now and always has been just for the shock value. You know, "doing something that your parents will hate". It has always been about having something that the "older generation" is shocked by and the kids will love it.There is no big conspiracy. It's purely for shock and advertising. Something to catch the eye and stand out above the rest. If this guy at VC really believed what he writes he wouldn't hide his true identity.
He says he has been in the music industry for years and sees all of the crap. Crap is what it is. I have been in the music industry for 45 years. It's all about advertising and publicity. Nothing more. No hidden meanings, no mind control, no Satanism. Most of the people that believe this crap are mind numb robots incapable of thinking for themselves. I'm not saying they are stupid because stupidity is something your are born with. They are although ignorant. Being ignorant is something that you do through conscious thought. Most of the people that believe what is on VC have been taught WHAT to think, not HOW to think.
It doesn't matter if the person behind the web site is Christian or not. He has an ulterior motive of some kind otherwise he wouldn't hide his identity.
One last thing I need to mention is the censorship of the site. I have used their VOTING BUTTONS only to find that if I return to the site later that my votes haven't been counted and if I write a reply to any of the postings and don't agree with what has been said by others the my replies mysteriously disappear. I guess he can't handle any opposition because he is afraid of the "Real Truth"."
If the entire thing was done on purpose, why is Vigilant Citizen bothering to cover it? I mean, that's what a shout-out usually means, it was done on purpose, and not meant to be taken seriously. If there is something the people at Vigilant Citizen lack, it's rationality and common sense. everything someone does is suspicious and they analyse the living hell out of it to come to their view (which is always right, by the way.)
Vigilant Citizen: Some might rationalize what is happening by saying: "Ke$ha did it for the LOLs and to make fun of the conspiracies". This is plausible, but this argument is now surfacing every time a video contains Illuminati symbolism. Are all videos now making fun of conspiracies? In reality, Ke$ha didn't do anything for any LOLs. She did not direct the video. She is just performing what she is told to perform, like most pop stars. The fact of the matter is: Illuminati symbols are becoming more prevalent because that was the plan all along: To gradually make them part of popular culture. The occult elite is revealing itself and the masses are dancing to their tunes.
Clock: You know what? This is not bad of an argument, good job on Vigilant Citizen. I will hand them that. However, there are mistakes in this paragraph that could not make this argument seem valid: Is there any proof that she is being controlled by anyone else? Can you show a quote, a picture, person, name or video of this going on? Also, If there is all of this craziness going on, why aren't there any whistle blowers? also, if they were so secret, why would they leave clues around? Truly, if something were secret, then they would not be leaving clues behind, and I'm pretty sure that websites like Vigilant Citizen would be taken down for "exposing".
Also, how are symbols becoming more and more prevalent? That is opinion. Usually, if you see one symbol, and you are being told to see more, your brain will likely start looking for these patterns of symbols, and you will therefore start seeing them everywhere.
If their plan was to make some of the symbols of the illuminati as part of pop culture, what in the world would they gain of that? Does that make them Illuminati worshipers? No, they are still mostly Catholic or devout to their own religion, just because the music video that teenagers are listening to contains some symbolism (if you search for them, you might just find them everywhere, and trust me, it's a really creepy experience) Does that make them Satan Worshipers? no.
They then begin to analyze some of the symbols. yaaaayy!
They use the eye of providence a lot, and this makes me very confused. If the illumnati, as VC puts it, is a group of people controlling the government and the music industry. They are said to be Satanic and evil and want to impose a eery plan of New World Order. The NWO on the Thrive Debunked website has been debunked to death already, so I will not even bother with it. Here's my question: If a group that believed in Satanic worship and are working against God and what everybody else thinks, why in the hell is their symbol (the eye of providence) representative of GOD? That makes absolutely no sense.
TO end this, I will use a little copy pasting from Rational Wiki:
"Easter eggs in the media
They also have a tendency to put hidden symbols and clues to their existence around the world, and on money, for no apparent reasons.[5]
Nearly every popular culture icon, including television shows, politicians music artists and any/every celebrity, are said to be somehow connected to the Illuminati in some way from something as normal as a triangle...
Probably the best example of this would be Tupac Shakur, whose last album was entitled "The Don Killuminati: The Seven Day Theory" lead to many theories.[6] Tupac actually chose the title to reference that the album was recorded and mixed in a relatively short period of seven days.The word killuminati (a portmanteau of the words kill and illuminati) that people ironically interpret as Pac saying that he is speaking out against them and killing illuminati. The truth being that he heard about them in prison and used the logic the majority of people lack that "If this organisation is so secret, how the fuck does everyone know about it?" Those aren't his words but it's what he meant, Tupac never believed in the Illuminati. [7] People also begin to distort the truth to form other theories. People have been saying Tupac faked his death and will be coming back since 2003. Every few years when they are obviously wrong people push back the guess a few years. This is mainly because a while before he died Tupac was planning on permanently changing his rap name to Makaveli after the 15/16th century writer Niccolò Machiavelli.
An equally good example would be rapper Jay-Z. He is supposedly very high in the Illuminati's hierarchy of celebrities. The hand gesture that he flashes has been cited as "proof" (in a very, very loose sense of the word) even though it's meant to represent the diamond of Roc-a-fella Records and is thrown up as frequently as the east or west hand signs. He is also accused of being famous for selling his soul and amongst other things. As with Tupac, theorists just turn to lies to prove their points. Quite a few people claimed that the name of his newborn daughter, Blue Ivy, backwards (Yvi Eulb) is Latin for Lucifer's daughter even though there is nothing to imply this. Jay Z has denied all these claims; his response to the conspiracy theorists can be heard in Rick Ross's song, "Free Mason."[8] I assure you when he dies no matter how simple the explanation for the death, someone somewhere will have "evidence" that the illuminati was involved.
It can be very difficult to find anyone who isn't actually connected with the Illuminati. All of the claimed affiliations involve an occult symbol in a music video or photo (usually the "all-seeing eye," the Star of David, or a Pentagram). This is most likely to get people talking and gain publicity. For example, if Rihanna has a newspaper cutout that says "Princess of the Illuminati" in a music video. Millions of people will go watch the video...
Michael Jackson is a very interesting case. One faction of the conspiracy community considers him a member of the Illuminati, employed to brainwash the public. Another faction, however, says that Michael was not a member, but actually was fighting to expose their control of the music industry and media. Michael was supposedly killed for this very reason. Either way the theorists have all the bases covered.
I hope you ennjoyed this debunking. I will next analyze the kesha tweet in which she says that she was forced to sing Die Young!
-Clock