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Hate Mail - I read your web site about the zeitgeist. it changed my veiws on everything.

Sender: James Walders <jwalders@yahoo.com>
Subject: I read your web site about the zeitgeist. it changed my veiws on everything.
Type: Corrections
Added: Mar 04, 2010
Sent to: Edward L Winston

First of all you really didnt "debunk anything" you just state that its wrong with no physical info on why its wrong. I bet your a chirstan. Sometimes peoples ego are so out of wacked that even when there wrong they have a need to be right. Chirstans are a virse. they are people of a god basied only on faith not fact. They use divine rights to tax, steal, kill, and take what this God says is theirs. Reglion is their to save people but in steady it gave us the cursades and started war with a never ending blood shed. Why cant people be their own god and live for the people. If your where a true follower of the jesue you would figure it out one day

First of all you didn't "read anything" you just state that I'm wrong without actually pointing out where I didn't debunk something. I bet you're a conspiracy theorist. Conspiracy theorists are virus. They are people of Alex Jones, Peter Joseph, etc based only on faith not fact. They use their infallibility to argue with people when they don't know what the hell they're talking about. Conspiracy theories are their religion and they do not question anything their leaders say. Why can't conspiracy theorists just research anything without going out and starting fights with people. If you were a true follower of what Peter Joseph says, you'd check things yourself.

Okay, here's why you're wrong:
1) I'm an atheist, I've always been an atheist, period. If you think that's impossible, as some people seem to, think about this: my parents are atheists and they raised their children that way.
2) I bet you didn't read shit about Zeitgeist on my site, because anyone who says "you didn't debunk anything" is either stupid or a liar.
3) How do you explain all of my sources? Are they just empty links that go no where?
4) You didn't name a single instance where I "didn't debunk anything" which is exactly what people who say I "didn't debunk anything" do.
5) Claiming people you disagree with are Christian is not arguing against them, it's a straw man argument wrapped up with an ad hominem attack.
6) Grow some balls and actually research shit yourself without blindly following conspiracy theories
7) Stop emailing people without evidence of what you say, it makes you look like a fucking douchebag.
8) If you want to correct people, use at least decent spelling and grammar.
9) Don't email me again unless you show me where I "didn't debunk" something.
10) I bet you're a young, white male, am I right?
11) What's with the subject? Was that a trick to try to get me to open the email? I only can see the "I read your web site about the zeitgeist. it .." part anyway with my email client, so it didn't work.

Sincerely,
Edward

Yeah your right im just 18. But you dont believe that the true terrorist of the world where business suits and control 3 world countrys. its modern day slavery same with religon, they go by our laws and find loop holes through our system. The U.s. is the only imperealistic country out there. Have you ever read Economist Hitmen? or American Empire backFlash? and why say your atheist thats still a beleive in nothing thats like a useless group of people. if the sun wasnt here you will be dead. so one could say sun is god. i think theres no after life. only one life and them you die like everything else. But i beleive that The sun is god and i dont need to worship it cause it already gave us life the thing people need to focus on is our planet and its well being and the natural way of time. And sorry but your website is a waste of my time and life. i though you where going to say something interesting but you just add extra fluff that makes inrelavent to dubanking the Zeitgeist movement. Tell me straight up why is wrong and not true.. Tell me that poeple never looked to the skys and personifed stars into stories that helped them out with their crop growning and seasoning. it sounds like common sense. or tell me that we have a perfect government and media that doesnt isnt censor from the people. Please prove me wrong!! Tell me that oil compaines have never inslaved a country knowing what was going to happen? your probly so US hick or from the southern part of Us.

>> Yeah your right im just 18.

Of course

>> But you dont believe that the true terrorist of the world where business suits and control 3 world countrys.

What countries are these? US, China, and... England?

>> its modern day slavery same with religon, they go by our laws and find loop holes through our system.

If you're talking about capitalism, that's true.

>> The U.s. is the only imperealistic country out there.

Not true. England still has control over countries abroad, most widely known being Northern Ireland, and they still have strong influence in many of their former colonies, except America and India. China also has control over other areas and influence on smaller nations that surround it. Russia as well, and there are many other examples.

>> Have you ever read Economist Hitmen?

Yeah, and the guy who wrote it also claimed he could turn into a Jackal.

>> or American Empire backFlash?

By Andrew Bacevich?

Anyway, how am I to trust you've read these books as you imply when you clearly can't even read my site which isn't even close to the length of either book.

>> and why say your atheist thats still a beleive in nothing thats like a useless group of people.

Uh, what? I don't believe in any god, spirits, etc. that means I'm an atheist "a" = without, theist = "god". Yes there are groups of atheists, but most atheists don't associate with those groups because a lot of those people are annoying. They spend all of their time criticizing everyone else (maybe you could learn something from that) without considering they're likely the intolerant ones.

>> if the sun wasnt here you will be dead.

No, I wouldn't exist, because the Sun's light and radiation helped form life on the planet.

>> so one could say sun is god.

A god implies knowledge, omnipotence, omniscience, but the Sun is just nuclear fusion. It's no more a god than a nuclear power plant.

>> i think theres no after life.

I don't either.

>> only one life and them you die like everything else.

I agree

>> But i beleive that The sun is god and i dont need to worship it cause it already gave us life the thing people need to focus on is our planet and its well being and the natural way of time.

And you base your belief that it's a god on the fact that because it exists, you exist? Then why not consider the big bang, milky way galaxy, the laws of physics, etc your gods instead, since they ultimately control the Sun?

>> And sorry but your website is a waste of my time and life.

Yet, you took the time to email me to basically tell me you didn't read it, so I guess you didn't waste too much time.

>> i though you where going to say something interesting but you just add extra fluff that makes inrelavent to dubanking the Zeitgeist movement.

Not really, and I don't actually try to debunk the Zeitgeist movement at all, showing you didn't read my site.

>> Tell me straight up why is wrong and not true..

That's why the articles exist, but you didn't read them.

>> Tell me that poeple never looked to the skys and personifed stars into stories that helped them out with their crop growning and seasoning.

I never once claim people didn't, in fact I agree with the film on this exact issue. Since it's at the very beginning of the first article, I can tell you didn't even get that far.

>> it sounds like common sense.

It is.

>> or tell me that we have a perfect government and media that doesnt isnt censor from the people.

Once again, I never once said they don't, which I lay out in countless articles, especially in my COINTELPRO article.

>> Please prove me wrong!!

I have the articles, you just don't want to read them. Plus it's not up to me to prove anything, you're the one going against common knowledge, it's up to you to prove it.

>> Tell me that oil compaines have never inslaved a country knowing what was going to happen?

I never said they haven't either.

>> your probly so US hick or from the southern part of Us.

Again, you prove you didn't read my site at all, I constantly mention I'm from St. Louis.

So, you've proven undoubtedly that you haven't read a damn thing on my site, yet you claim to be all knowledgeable and know tons about me. You obviously know dick, and if you'd take just a brief moment to get off your high horse and tone down your arrogance, and perhaps read anything on my site, you'd have every issue you've mentioned in this email addressed. I know you won't read my site though, you'd rather someone just make a film and tell you what to think. I don't want to tell you want to think, instead I want to offer you another view, but that's irrelevant to you.

Please read my site before making claims when you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.

I'm waiting with bells on for your next email full of blatant ignorance. Luckily for the Zeitgeist Movement I know there are people that aren't as retarded as you that are members, so you don't represent them to me, but I'm sure there are others out there who see you as the representative, and that makes me actually feel bad for Peter Joseph.