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Hate Mail - Debunking The Obama Deception

Sender: Sebastian Capilli <scapilli@optonline.net>
Subject: Debunking The Obama Deception
Type: Corrections
Added: Mar 07, 2010
Sent to: Edward L Winston

Mr. Winston,

I have read through your very lengthy article about Alex Jones’ documentary, “The Obama Deception”. I have been exploring all these conspiracies due to the fact that I am deeply disturbed at where this country is going. I don’t belong to any political party, I am not a conspiracy nut and I don’t have any agenda other than I want to have prosperous, peaceful country with the principles it was founded on. The “facts” you have stated in debunking the documentary are just as bad as some of these conspiracy explanations. You have taken things out of contexts and some are outright lies. For example, Al-Qaeda an arm of the CIA. Well yes, in a way they are. They were initially funded & trained by the CIA to defeat the Russians during the Afghan occupation. Check your facts. It was stated months before 9-11 in ABC interview with Osama Bin Laden. The CIA has played with the devil so many times throughout its history. Then our military has to clean up its mess 10-20 years later with our blood. The 700 billion dollar bailout comment made by the Congressman wasn’t taken out of context that it changed its meaning and intent of what Mr. Jones was trying express. I know, I saw all the Congressional sessions on C-SPAN during that time. As trying to debunk the claim that Obama wasn’t in office at the time of the bailout is a very weak argument. If you recall during the campaign both presidential candidates were called to the White House during that time. Input was provided by both candidates since one of them would be inheriting this mess. It was blatantly obvious to anyone with half a brain that he would become president. So I would conclude that his input had more weight. Obama has gone back on everyone of his promises thus far and we have 3 years to go. The media has done nothing but glorify him and that anyone that speaks out against him or his policies is called a “racist”. His cabinet is essentially the Clinton administration. Anyone that has to do with fiscal policy is a former Goldman-Sachs employee. So yes, he works for Wall-Street. If you are lucky enough to afford to own stock in Goldman-Sachs you are doing very well. That financial institution came out on top of this mess. I could go on and on but I don’t have the time since I have to work twice as hard to put food on the table. I am extremely disappointed with this administration, I voted for him . Is this change? Yes change of a puppet, same show. In conclusion, even though Mr. Jones doesn’t get all his facts together, it has been way more proven than any argument that has been presented to the contrary. The media doesn’t even acknowledge its viewers concerns and dismisses them as crackpots. Well Mr. Winston people have been beat up and robbed and they are pissed off to put it bluntly and it did matter which party they came from. All I ask is that you should reconsider points in your article if you are an objective person. More likely you are one of the spinsters in this media circus stirring up trouble for good honest hard working American citizens.

Sincerely,
Sebastian Capilli

>> I have been exploring all these conspiracies due to the fact that I am deeply disturbed at where this country is going

Then why not study actual history and real reasons why it's falling apart instead of studying conspiracy theories?

>> I don’t belong to any political party, I am not a conspiracy nut and I don’t have any agenda other than I want to have prosperous, peaceful country with the principles it was founded on.

Are you sure? Because later on you accuse me of being apart of some media conspiracy to put out disinformation to stir up trouble. That sounds like conspiracy nut talk to me.

>> The “facts” you have stated in debunking the documentary are just as bad as some of these conspiracy explanations.

Please point out.

>> You have taken things out of contexts and some are outright lies.

Please point out.

>> For example, Al-Qaeda an arm of the CIA. Well yes, in a way they are. They were initially funded & trained by the CIA to defeat the Russians during the Afghan occupation. Check your facts.

No, they aren't. The CIA did arm and train various mujahideen forces, but Al Qaeda, which didn't fully exist as the organization it was by the end of the 90s at that time, was funded primarily by Osama bin Laden -- he was a millionaire too.

>> It was stated months before 9-11 in ABC interview with Osama Bin Laden.

Source please.

>> The CIA has played with the devil so many times throughout its history.

That's true.

>> Then our military has to clean up its mess 10-20 years later with our blood.

I'm not sure that's possible, but primarily we've done most damage in South America than anywhere lese.

>> The 700 billion dollar bailout comment made by the Congressman wasn’t taken out of context that it changed its meaning and intent of what Mr. Jones was trying express. I know, I saw all the Congressional sessions on C-SPAN during that time.

So what context was that? Do you have a source?

>> As trying to debunk the claim that Obama wasn’t in office at the time of the bailout is a very weak argument.

It aired in September 2008.

>> If you recall during the campaign both presidential candidates were called to the White House during that time. Input was provided by both candidates since one of them would be inheriting this mess.

So he was in office because he'd be inheriting it?

>> It was blatantly obvious to anyone with half a brain that he would become president.

Not really.

>> So I would conclude that his input had more weight.

Do you have a transcript of the meeting that you say took place between the candidates at the White House prior to the election?

>> Obama has gone back on everyone of his promises thus far and we have 3 years to go.

Not all of them: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/. Do you have a source? I know I do.

>> The media has done nothing but glorify him and that anyone that speaks out against him or his policies is called a “racist”.

I guess you don't watch Fox News or listen to talk radio.

>> His cabinet is essentially the Clinton administration.

Yes, he has a few people from the Clinton administration, luckily, no one's been sexually harassed yet (just a joke). But, do you have a source for this claim?

>> Anyone that has to do with fiscal policy is a former Goldman-Sachs employee.

Not all of them, just one. Do you have a source?

>> So yes, he works for Wall-Street.

Don't they all?

>> If you are lucky enough to afford to own stock in Goldman-Sachs you are doing very well.

Unfortunately, I don't own stock in anything. But, if you bought the stock prior to the crash, you're still way down. That's how it works though, buy low, sell high.

>> That financial institution came out on top of this mess.

On top and what way? Their assets are down 3/4 a trillion dollars. Do you have a source?

>> I could go on and on but I don’t have the time since I have to work twice as hard to put food on the table.

Perhaps then there's nothing else for you to point out?

>> I am extremely disappointed with this administration, I voted for him .

Well, I didn't.

>> Is this change? Yes change of a puppet, same show.

It's always the same show. Why do people think the President is some dictator for 4 years, the most powerful arm of the government really is congress, yet people center on the President.

>> In conclusion, even though Mr. Jones doesn’t get all his facts together, it has been way more proven than any argument that has been presented to the contrary.

Not really.

>> The media doesn’t even acknowledge its viewers concerns and dismisses them as crackpots.

Again, Fox News.

>> Well Mr. Winston people have been beat up and robbed and they are pissed off to put it bluntly and it did matter which party they came from.

I agree, and long before Obama, ever heard of the Reagan administration?

>> All I ask is that you should reconsider points in your article if you are an objective person.

I did, and still do, if you have actual _sources_ to back up what you say, as I asked for, then I'd definitely consider your point of view -- but I did consider it anyway, and based on evidence I already have, you likely are wrong about everything you said in this email. Don't worry, just because we disagree, I don't think you're a secret agent out to get me.

>> More likely you are one of the spinsters in this media circus stirring up trouble for good honest hard working American citizens.

Just because I disagree with you, and I'm not a conspiracy theorist, doesn't mean I'm a part of a conspiracy against you.