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Alex Jones - The Order of Death - Page 11

Author: Edward L Winston
Added: August 31st, 2009

This is page 11 of my discussion on the Alex Jones film The Order of Death. If you were linked here by mistake, please refer to page one of this article, which contains the introduction.

If you haven't read my article on the first film, please do it now! If you haven't, don't contact me and complain when you claim I haven't debunked anything in this article, because almost all of it is covered in the first film and barely touched on here.

[Alex Jones]
Oh!

[David Gergen]
That's right! Listen, listen, you go around and make understandings with people and violate them. You-you ambush people on the streets and that's an inappropriate form of journalism. If you wish to practice that, that's fine, but don't ask others to respect you for it. You can do your free American like any thing you want, if you wanna be civil, rude, ungentlemanly, that's up to you, but don't expect the rest of us to say, "Oh well..."

[Alex Jones]
You guys are settin' policy in there, Mr. Gergen.

[David Gergen]
I'm sorry; nobody sets policy in there. We try to be gentlemen and obviously, you don't belong there. 

[Alex Jones]
Weaving spiders come not here? Yeah! That is a three pointer, whoo!

To repeat myself again, there's no evidence to say any policy is set there. If the NWO is real, they already seem to have hundreds of other decision making bodies pointed out by the conspiracy theorists, why add yet another one - not only that, why add one where everyone's drunk?

He says "Weaving spiders, come not here" as if it's some kind of secret code. It's the club's motto. The quote is from Shakespeare's A Midsummer Night's Dream[50]. The quote basically means that no business is to be transacted here.

[Alex Jones]
Look how strangely he behaved when we brought it up? Why's he acting so secretive?

I'm not sure you can call slow motion film "acting strangely." But a similar argument would be if I ran up to some guy in the street and said, "TELL ME ABOUT YOUR TIME IN KAPPA KAPPA SIGMA!" shoving a camera in his face, and expect him to be calm and cool, then getting upset when he's standoffish and not willing to reveal what he did at his last fraternity reunion.

Why did he get so angry when he'd discovered that we'd snuck in? You see, they take it very, very seriously. This is one of the hallmarks of the occult and secret societies. The word occult means secret. Secrecy is part of their religion. They revel in it, and when it's violated, they become extremely angry.

Would you feel comfortable if you had a fraternity and you found out some jackass radio show host went in, recorded video, and claimed you practiced "Canaanite, Luciferian, Babylon mystery" religion? I sure as hell would. He's using the classic argument that "if people are getting together in 'secret' then it can only be to do something sinister."

As I've pointed out already, there's no religious practices going on. Just because it's in secret, doesn't mean it's occult. Likewise, just because it's occult, doesn't mean it's secret. Why else can you find neo-pagan, satanic, and other occult rituals and information all over Youtube?

How widespread is the occult? The answer is, extremely widespread. Occultism in our society, in particular our government and the highest levels of corporate America, is rampant. It is a well-publicized fact that the Reagans had every aspect of their lives governed by an astrologer. Imagine having your life controlled, down to the exact minute you give a speech, by astrology, an ancient occult system that believe that the earth was the center of the universe.

In the first article I talked about the Satanism hysteria during the 1980s. This really is no different, Alex only sees the occult everywhere because he wants to. Nancy Reagan began consulting with an astrologer in planning the president's meetings after the 1981 assassination attempt on his life[51]. As she stated in her memoirs "I felt panicky every time [Ronald] left the White House", clearly she was traumatized and looking for a way to feel in control of a situation she'd be completely helpless in[52]. 

Alex Jones is obviously implying that Reagan had his life controlled by astrology "down to the exact minute", but this isn't even close to what happened. Essentially Nancy had an astrologer tell her when days were "good", "neutral", or "bad" and she tried her best to plan around that[51]. I think it's silly, frankly, but not as nearly as silly as some of the other decisions made by the Reagans. And honestly, we don't know how often she got her wish on which days were used.

He shows images of a Mason lodge during his speech about occultism. You can learn more about Freemasonry in my Secret Societies section.

Pagans/occultists weren't the only ones who believed that the earth was the center of the universe, in fact it was a belief of Christians up until the 17th century, with detractors like Galileo Galilei being arrested for disagreeing[53].

Eleanor Roosevelt admitted that she performed sťances and tried to raise the dead at the White House. Sixty years later, Hilary Clinton had her own sťances, attempting to contact Eleanor Roosevelt. 

There's no evidence of Eleanor Roosevelt participating in a sťance outside of conspiracy and religious circles. As for Hilary Clinton, apparently she met with New Age "guru" Jean Houston. During her meeting she discussed how to handle writing her book It Takes a Village, and one of the exercises was imaging what Eleanor Roosevelt would say about her writer's block and how she might solve it[54].

Prime Minster Tony Blair and his wife practiced the occult every morning. Tony Blair draws a circle and then conjures the spirit that he calls "the light." He channels it and makes decisions according to what the spirit tells him. The Blairs admitted occult activities are legion. 

This story is pretty much centralized on conspiracy sites, primarily on Alex Jones' own site Prison Planet[55]. In the article on his own web site, it says that Tony Blair consults with his "style guru" Carole Caplin and she "reads" from a hidden force called "The Light". Even his own site does not mention practicing anything with his wife, drawing a circle, or conjuring any spirits. Alex Jones can't even get his own stories correct. The whole thing smells to high heaven, I can't find a single original source that isn't a gossip column or a conspiracy site.

And so was Adolf Hitler's well-known obsession with dark mysticism. Adolf Hitler belonged to the pre Nazi death cult The Fool Society as well as Thule Society. Both groups trace their lineage back to the Order of Death, founded in 1776 in Engelstadt University in Bavaria, Germany. Then of course it spread to the US with the founding of Skull and Bones.

Hitler was indeed intrigued by the occult, but there's absolutely no record of him being a member of "The Fool Society" anywhere outside this film. The Thule Society was the organization that sponsored the Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, which was transformed into the Nazi Party, but there's no evidence that Hitler ever attended a Thule meeting, though it's not outside of the realm of possibility[56].

The Thule Society has connections with the Germanenorden (German Order or The Teutonic Order)[57], there's was no "Order of Death" as Ariosophy (the ideology that connects these organizations) wasn't even defined until the late 1800s[58]. 

Skull and Bones originates well before the Germanenorden, Thule Society, or Ariosophy. In fact the origin of "The Order of Scull and Bones" (it used to be a C) is well documented. It was started in December 1832 (about 80 years before the Thule Society) when two seniors Alfonso Taft and William Huntington Russell got together because Russell did not receive an invitation to join the Phi Beta Kappa fraternity, he simply started his own[59]. You can learn more about Skull and Bones in my Secret Societies section.

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